That's the good thing about a big bike. Just drop it down a gear and you pass in seconds. I just can't sit behind a car. Even when I'm in the car I want to overtake then I think. Shit I'm not on the bike lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk sue
Consider this (and I maybe wrong). When following there are two positions we can ride in. 1. is to ride to one side of our lane or another. 2. is to ride plumb in the middle of our lane. If we are close behind, we "should" be to one side and we will normally err to the offside at speed. From the drivers perspective this looks like we are closing for an overtake and they should be considerate and not hamper another vehicles progress and will yield some road space. This invites us to get into trouble. Folks, we know our bikes. We know it's limits. If we are near it's limits, why not drop back and take up a central line. We'll be able to see more, have more tinking time and be able capitolise on the next hold up to slip by when the speed is more in our favour. The extra 2 mph will make little difference in the meantime. Chill, watch and learn. Look at the sign posts and make sure we understand each and every one of them. Then we can ask ourselves why they are there.
this is true...... on an underpowered bike, you should read well ahead ...and know when you can get past easily enough. use the three stage overtaking rule ..........wonder who knows what that is ? Chas just cos someone has moved over .it doesnt give you right off way. in fact ..more so often than not ,you are following too close behind, so she thinks you want to overtake and then moves over . .......when in the following position, hang back abit. your vision will be much better.... wait your time drop a cog, move into the overtake position then ....overtake IPSGA ....works on every manoeuvre you do..ask dad/mum/boyfriend/ winston/leroy !!!!
If the car moves to the side and u can't overtake then just drop back. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk sue
Yep, it's a rite of passage we all have to go through at least once in our lives... :joker: It's difficult enough on a 125 as it is... when you have a car you've just started to overtake to start accelerating on you, you can't predict that. You have to know the capabilities of your bike as well as try to figure out if the other driver is going to let you go at your pace or not (judging by his/her style of driving, speed, aggressiveness etc). Of course once you get on a bigger bike, all this doesn't matter anymore, as you'll be able to leave behind pretty much anything on 4 wheels that you come across.
I wasnt close i think it was probably the sheer amount of bikes in her mirror lmao i happend to be the one at the front (somehow) haha and i would only overtake if it was safe from a distance because its not exactly fast and iwas thinking of dropping back but then my bike started to actually move so i carried on haha the road was really wide anyway i was still on the same side of the road
thats common sense........if you do that look through the car into the drivers mirror , acknowledge him/her one way or the other....so they know you are thanking them for the give way....like wise when you do pass a car that has moved over use the left hand to gesture a wave OR if they dont move over and you overtake use a left hand to gesture aWANKER
nice chas..your coming on good .......always give your self some space though ...if the tosser in the car was texting she may just weave to the right where you are .....give yourself some space i would have followed....seen the overtake...moved to an overtake postion ..check mirror ...pass....my position would have been on the otherside of the white line poss middle of the road on the other side...depending on the width of the road try to imagine there is a big invisible bubble around your bike. and nothing is to come inside this bubble. so give your self distance
I remember this now. We had come down a hill and the road flattened off when you started to pass and then we started up a shallow incline. You had made it to just infront of her bumper but didn't want to steal her braking distance by cutting across. Yes, she was not at all considerate or just plain ignorant of your plight. Equally, flicking back to Winkmasters's point, "you have to look ahead" and note inclines that will after the progress of a small bike and that is no mean feat when you have the eyes of 6 riders on bigger bikes looking on. Don't think that when you have a bigger bike you won't have to worry about it. You will, it's just you will be thinking about how much space you'll need to slow down again afterward. Looking ahead, looking ahead, looking ahead. :thumbup:
Kill me for bumping an old thread if you want - I'm sorry But just wanna ask who was on the black and grey XJ6? this one:
No, he would have but, he's on his retirement lads do at York races that wk-end..he's defo up for the next one..!
How does he find it Jen? The Diversion seems a sensible choice for a maturing rider. Sensible power, comfortable riding position for maturing bones and general a good, no frills, safe, all-rounder.
They are great bikes mate. Quick enough so that your not hanging in for dear life when accelerating... And once you have got to know it abit great in the bends. 1 downside, lack of good sound & good looking exhausts
He's enjoyed riding it as his 1st big bike, really comfy and corners very well. He would have got the diversion for a bit of protection with the semi faring, If he'd thought about it a bit more. Like Kev, he hates the exhaust but other than that loves it..
Kev, I think Cabernet was implying you ride an old man's bike ;P Not that I can talk, my last bike was a Triumph Tiger 955i!
We're all friends and no-one wants to be a killjoy, but some of the newer members may not realise that exactly that has happened already here. A few years ago we had an NWB member tragically die on a ride out with other members when it appears he misjudged a bend, lowsided and hit the crash barrier. In the ensuing investigation there was very real consideration given to prosecuting other riders who he was riding with, who, in the honest-to-God opinion of every other biker on here, were NOT in any way responsible for what was a tragic rider error by a inexperienced young rider who had only passed his big bike test a few weeks before. All I think I need to explain here is that when you're under investigation because someone riding with you has made an error that had bad consequences, it's not good. When you then find out that the investigating officers have been downloading conversation threads and information gleaned from the NorthWestBikers forum (a public forum) and use it as supporting evidence to build a case against you, the folly of "post it up and be damned" suddenly comes home to roost. Even if there's insufficient "evidence" for a criminal conviction because the burden of proof is "beyond reasonable doubt", you can still have a civil case brought against you and the evidentiary burden for THAT type of case is only "on the balance of probability". In my mind the stuff posted in countless YouTube videos and in forum comments might not instigate a prosecution in itself, but it would be goldust for anyone looking to harvest extra meat to flesh out a case they're already building against someone. In the end there was no prosecution, but not for a lack of desire and effort on the part of the investigating police. Despite that, it didn't stop the family of the poor lad who died from pursuing his fellow NWB riders - his mates - through the courts for compensation. I'm not going to name names - some people will know who it was and some won't - but we were talking TENS of thousands of pounds in costs and damages. The poor sods involved had their nerves frayed and the whole thing dragged out for months and months. So, maybe they can't do you for a specific speed in a video however they can easily use it for "without due care and attention" or "dangerous driving", or even use that YouTube video to justify a warrant to enter your home/workplace and sieze IT equipment that may have more useable data on it. Then you truly understand the folly of posting certain exploits on the internet. How would you feel if police knock on your door, shove a bit of paper in your face and then help themselves to your PC. And your laptop. And your DVD-RWs. And your external hard drives, USB sticks, your mobile phone, etc., etc.? Finally, NWB has to protect itself by not leaving itself open to criminal or civil action for being perceived to be indifferent or even advocating reckless or dangerous behaviour on the road. A lot of people have put a LOT of hard work into building this forum and community so although we may sometimes seem a little Gestapo about it, we know FOR A FACT that the forums are viewed by the authorities and that if anyone involved in a prosecution/investigation/litigation, or simply out looking to smear NWB or bikers in general, sees a thread or comments, or video, that they feel serves their own purpose then you can bet your bottom dollar you'll find it wheeled out against you. If you want to video yourselves on rides out then great stuff - I'd just ask that all you post on here are still images/screenshots and if you want to share the video with your mates then upload it as "private" on YouTube or similar and share the link via PM instead. It's great to see people listening and learning from more experienced riders - I once got told that we have one mouth but two ears for a good reason, so we should use them in that ratio - and that's exactly what we all want NWB to be - a friendly, piss-taking community of hairy-arsed bikers who give each other bear hugs when we see each other and then willfully and relentlessly rip the piss out of each other None of us want to see the forum we love used against us in any way, but the simple way to look at it is that if you never give someone the ammunition then you make it harder for them to shoot you down. Peace out, you stinky bunch of petrol-sniffing meatheads
