Oh s**t, I need a new hobby!

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Woody, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. bikenutter

    bikenutter VIP Member VIP Member

    NO PAIN NO GAIN CRAZY FOOL !!!

    Im thinking track bike
     
  2. Woody

    Woody Super Naked. VIP Member

    Been looking at various things. The bike was jacked up 35mm at the back and dropped 10mm at the front. Can anyone make sense of why a tyre change effected road handling so much?
     
  3. bikenutter

    bikenutter VIP Member VIP Member

    Im not sure what you have done with the tyres elliot what is the standard size and what size did you fit?
     
  4. captaingoslow

    captaingoslow Rockin to myself VIP Member

    In my eyes mate the profile o the tyre has been changed so there is different geometry on the bike so the back will not dig in as much as the front when cornering if that makes sense.
     
  5. Woody

    Woody Super Naked. VIP Member

    Just got it home... Construction workers picked it up with their digger!!! Finally got into our garage. Pics:
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    I think I'm just going to have to forget about guessing what happened. I don't think I'll ever figure it out. And once again thanks guys you are being good about this.
    Dunno what to do with the bike yet but I'll use this thread to update progress of both bike and myself.
     
  6. bikenutter

    bikenutter VIP Member VIP Member

    Elliot your rear tyre has a 60 upstand are you saying the front had a 70 upstand?
     
  7. Woody

    Woody Super Naked. VIP Member

  8. mooro

    mooro VIP Member VIP Member

    speedy recovery Elliot
     
  9. lee

    lee Moderator Staff Member

    Ive used 120/70 and 170/60 on a few bikes for years with no issues.
    The changes to front and rear ride height will have made bike much quicker to turn in. but more unstable / twitchy as a result.
    personally i think that is most likely cause.
    -10 @ front and + 35 @ rear is quite a lot for the road. Steering head angle would be a lot steeper.
    Steering damper probably would have saved it but bit late now.
     
  10. Topper

    Topper VIP Member VIP Member

    Bloody hell fire Elliot!!

    Get well soon matey...................RIP mr bike
     
  11. NED

    NED revin the hell out of it while i still can

    looks like a scary off that one your dead lucky not to be dead...lookin at the pics your fork legs look like they are about 25 mm raised in the yoke..combined with35mm raise at the rear in my opinion would make the bike dead unstable...a raked out front end will give good stability at speed but wont go round a corner very well..if you sit the fork upright vertically it has the opposite effect also shortening the wheel base making it corner great but sh*tty at fast straights..look at the rake on some of the modified pro drag bikes....i had a go of a mates sv650 with stock suspension once and it was impossible to make it go round a corner...looks like you have set yours up to corner very well wich has left you with one obvious disadvantage
     
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  12. Vvtr

    Vvtr ( . )Y( . ) Turtle Z VIP Member

    dropped the forks too low on my firesorm just to see what it woud do and it was very unstable...
    it dropped right into corners great but was very skittish at low speed...
    changing steering geometry can have drastic effects... as you have just found out :(
     
  13. Woody

    Woody Super Naked. VIP Member

    This sounds right as at low speed <70 it was very twitchy :/
    You guys are helping thanks :)
    I was told 10mm but I bet it is closer to 30mm.
    Shame coz I loved that bike so much :'(
     
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  14. Yogi

    Yogi New Member

    I agree

    I think -10 (or more?) front and + 35 rear is a lot if you're riding the bike hard. You could have hit a small bump while accelerating hard, that could easily have lifted the front wheel for a moment and if the front wheel comes down off line and bike doesn't have enough stability to sort itself out ... tankslapper
     
  15. suzukisue

    suzukisue Inactive

    Awww woody so sorry about the bike,
    but at least your ok :)
    get better soon x
     
  16. Dave

    Dave Moderator Staff Member

    That looks bad mate ! Snapped forks ! not seem them like that for ages . You can guess for ever what happened, it could have been various things. Like you say seems to be pointing to the tyres and the set up ! I'm taking it you where " moving " ? For this type of damage ? When your better , and I hope that's soon, go back to where it happened , walk the area, it may re fresh your memory , if you are still haunted as to what it happened. That will bring some closure for you

    If your claiming from insurance , just becareful with those mods on the bike , you know what they are like

    Thanks for posting this , we all can learn from other riders experiences get well soon bud
     
  17. wardy

    wardy New Member

    Unlucky pal got off lucky even with them injures, you rec you can repair that?
     
  18. Woody

    Woody Super Naked. VIP Member

    The hope is yes. I reckon I can get it on track for around £400 and road for around 700

    I have no interest in riding on the road so I've just ended up bring forced on track.

    Progress is good ATM im healing well and now able to walk. Battle scars are fading but wrist etc will take time.

    Thanks guys.
     
  19. bikenutter

    bikenutter VIP Member VIP Member

    FOOOOOK ME Ive just seen the images properly how fast were you going mate !!!! (not a question dont answer) when your able get a set of step ladders over the lost so that you can suspend the weight (2 sets if you can) then start stripping the whole thing back untill you left with parts you can use.

    If you need a hand let me know.
     
  20. lee

    lee Moderator Staff Member

    Might be time to change signiture too mate!!!!
     

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