Morning! I'm planning a r6 tail conversion and wanted to know if http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250814185780?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_10671wt_948 Would be legal here? Thanks!
I believe indicators need to be a set distance apart from one another to meet UK regulations. They're a little like the small number plate scenario. You've seen loads of people them, but as soon as you get one, you'll be stopped and hit with a VDRS.
Mot info http://www.motuk.co....cmanual_150.htm My mate bought some of these for his bike first time out he was almost rear ended the driver said he never noticed the indicator,I have also followed him and to be honest when the suns behind you it is hard to make out what is actualy happening with the lights
They are the same sort that ive got and had on my ninja and ive never been stopped or pulled up on mot with em on
I have had a set in my ninja and I have got some on my gixxer and there legal as they pass a mot and I have never had anything said to me. Sent from my iPhone 4s using my fingers and thumb.
Hi I fitted an intergrated rear on my cbr600f and it passed mot's and had no probs, ok the tester did frown a bit but still passed (and they look the biz)
You can have lights built into the same unit no problems......but the lights that you have linked would be an MOT failure as: Operation adversly affects another light. If the indicators could flash leaving the stop/tail lamps illuminated it would pass. There is no legal requirement for the indicators spaceing, providing they are on the left and right of the solo position lamp. That is my professional advice as an MOT Tester. Hope that clears it up for you!!
Not to doubt your line of work here, but the other brake/tail light is lit? Or do both parts of the tail light class independently?
so how does this figure on a car, where the rear light cluster almost always incorporates the tail light, stop light and indicators. as long as a light unit has physical separation between the lenses to avoid light bleeding from one section to another there should be no problem with this. some bikes have the lights built in as standard, so would that be a mot failure???? my scooter for ecample, the rear cluster has everything in the one unit, sailed through no problem, indicators, brake, stop lights all work fine. when i put the indicator on, doesnt make it look as though the brake light is flashing etc. i understand there are guidelines to follow, but at the end of the day it's down to the tester's discretion and experience as to what passes and what doesnt.... same with cans, what one tester fails, another one wont. imo if you're having problems with a jobsworth mot tester the answer is simple, use someone else.
These led ones arent seperated, if your indicating right the left brake is on but the right brake flashes red then amber so technically would fail.
Mine was like that on mine and still is but it's passed a mot and they were more bothered about my number plate as the tester said there is more fails on number plates then whet there is on brakes ie more to test for with plates. Sent from my iPhone 4s using my fingers and thumb.
interesting set of guidelines here on number plate standards.... http://www.hillsnumberplates.com/legislation/169_Character%20Height%202.pdf ive been pulled on mine before with a slightly smaller than std plate ( 1/2" smaller all round) and also warned that the letters are too small. i pointed out to the plod that as the bike was regd pre 01/09/01 he'll find the plate is legal and the 64mm letters and 11mm spacing are acceptable and legal... there's so many rules on plates now it's a bit daft imo.
I know it's daft I only found that out when I took the ninja for a mot and it failed before it went in cos of the plate and that who said there is more to fail on than brakes. Sent from my iPhone 4s using my fingers and thumb.
Yes mate, if the unit is designed to have two sides then if one turns off during operation of the indicator that would be a failure.....as it would if 50% or more of the LEDs in the cluster were blown.
I think you need to read my post again and stop trying to pick holes in what ive said. You have answered your comment yourself, the operation of one light 'bleeds' into another....or as the failure would be on you VT30: 'lamp in question' adversely affects the operation of another.The Lights that the OP put up are units that turn the stop/tail off to illuminate the indicators. This Is an MOT failure, and im sorry if thats me bieng a jobsworth but I could have my mot license revoked for passing such defects......you gonna pay my bills if I lose my job over that?? As you can see I have quite clearly said that If the indicators flash without affecting the operation of another light (EXAMPLE STOP/TAIL) then it is not an MOT Failure.
not picking holes in your post at all feller, just pointing out that not all rear lights are the same. ive seen some that are pure shite and others that work fine with good separation between the lights, so to say all integrated lights would fail is a bit gay. like saying all non oem cans are fails. why??? some are good some are shite. not picking on u bud, just some testers will look at individual bikes and others will just look for any excuse to fail them just to be arseholes like some power trip. seen one guy fail bikes for wavy discs even though they were probably better than oem - he just didnt like them personally!