India vs Pakistan in cricket is and always will be a massive sporting occasion....Nothing unusual as far as I am concerned.
lol Matty that'll teach you to have an opinion without a thoroughly researched, reasoned and referenced argument! funny :geek:
tbh i think cricket is a bit sh*t realy,who the f*ck wants to sit round all day watching people stand round whilst wearing a wooly jumper and spreading jizz all over there face to keep the sun out. who watched the moto gp-this is a real mans sport,simoncelli had me on the edge of my bloody seat :thumbsup:
Couldn't adam and eve it when he came off a very interesting race indeed. Looking forward to the next :thumbsup:
The start of the topic was 'has anyone noticed the biggest celebrated sporting event lately is India vs Pakistan in the cricket? Its had more cover than when ENGLAND won the six nations' Suggesting that despite England winning the six nations - a European wide championship, India vs Pakistan is receiving more coverage, when it is only a 2nd semi-final. Fair enough I'll admit they're different games, football receives more coverage than either. But look at the picture as a whole, we live in England, England has won something we should be proud of, but it's pushed aside and replaced with things like this. Convieniently if you look at the 2001 Census and the 2007 estimates calculated from that, what minority dominated the population after white? Asian: Indian and Asian: Pakistani. Together I'm sure they made up about 5% of the population, and not to be racist but that's the ones who are living here legally and filling in their Census, I'm sure there's a hell of a lot more. And as I said that's an outdated Census, to paraphrase what we were reminded by the Muslim terrorist group Islam4UK (who seem to be free to do as they please without repremand), they're having between 4 - 12 times the amount of children per couple a Christian family is, and plan to cut the % of Christian population in England by 1/4 by 3 to 4 generations. So they're the most dominant ethnic minority, growing rapidly and have some how managed to introduce their own law, now they're getting more coverage on TV. I don't think that's coincidence really. But that's just my (albeit very strong) opinion, I'm not here to preach.
I don't agree with your opinion for a number of reasons: 1. The six nations rugby contest is only open to six countries, only two of which are from mainland Europe. Therefore it's a "closed" contest, not open to the whole of Europe. 2. I believe England had already won the six nations before they played their final match - where's the excitement in that? 3. The six nations contest was aired on free to view (albeit with a tv licence) channels and the full coverage was shown. 4. The cricket world cup appeals to a far broader audience, and is open to the best teams in the world (there are certain qualifying requirements). 5. More teams play in the cricket world cup than the six nations, and therefore it stands to reason it will have greater airtime. I'm not going to get involved in a race related discussion (visions of a finger wagging P.W. Botha spring to mind), but I can add that I've had first hand experience of the bad effects of apartheid and how something similar could ruin this country if people become narrow minded and intolerable of other races/ nations. Education is the best answer. P.S. Although I'm seen as a foreigner, I'm as English as the rest of you because science has found that man originated from a certain region in South Africa. Ha ha ha Viva!
i have a lot of work friends who are pakistani, indian ,polish ,iraqi, iranian, english bla bla bla can understand the starting comment of the thread and in a way i agree but the figures just released for the indian pakistan game were that it was watched by 1 billion people world wide and thats just tv sets not how many people were sat infront of them :blink:
As I highlited above, a suggestion is not a fact. If you want take a suggestion as truth, then by all means, but bear in mind that the rest of what you have to say (based on that suggestion) is therefore entirely irrelevant. You might as well be talking about why you think people seem to be eating less baked beans these days. What's convenient about it? You seem to be of the opinion that it's abjectly inconvenient. The expression 'not to be racist' is almost invariably followed by one or more clearly racist remarks. Otherwise, it wouldn't be worth saying. You do realise that Pakistan and India are both former British dependencies? (Not so long ago, actually). They both remain members of the Commonwealth, and have for many years participated in some form or other in reciprocal emigration and citizenship agreements with the UK. It's important to remember that the British have for many years - and in many ways still do - exploit their resources and populations to its own benefit. They are in fact the two largest members of the Commonwealth. There is nothing more unusual about Pakistanis emigrating to the UK than Australians, South Africans, or Kiwis. And the fact that Asians now reside in the UK in large numbers is hardly surprising, given the size of their home populations and the historical ties to the British Empire. Wikipedia is a lame (and lazy) source to cite, but I bet this is easily accurate enough to substantiate my remarks above. Don't paraphrase; Quote. If you want your claim to be taken seriously, that is. Whilst we're at it, what has the apparent opinion (assuming your statements are to some extent accurate) of a marginal, extremist religious group got to do with a growing mainstream minority Asian population in the UK? You appear to be very confused about the difference between religion and ethnicity. The two may correlate but they are absolutely not one and the same thing. There exist equally radical Christian groups: That doesn't mean that all of us Christened in the UK are radical nutcases with an irrational desire to occupy Jerusalem. Are they? In what way? Source? Evidence? Are they? Source? Evidence? Figures? Bullshit. Any law passed and valid in the UK has been passed by parliament. Ergo it has been sanctioned by the public via the political system. You don't like some law, then vote for someone who will overturn it. If there's nobody available, get yourself elected. If nobody supports you, then you're on your own. It's everyone's law, not 'theirs'. Are they? Figures? Facts? No. You're just here to spout an irrational, insubstantiated, ill formed, almost bigoted opinion. I used to think like this. I was 10. Learn to do your research before asserting opinion as fact. You back it up, you prove it, you make a rational argument: I'll take it seriously.
Hey I've noticed that actually. LOADS of people eating all kings of things - frozen peas, mixed veg, I've even seen 'parcels' of veg wrapped in other veg in restaurants, even though the process doesn't involve paper OR string, so how can it be described as a PARCEL and have Trading Standards been informed???
Me and my mate were talking the other day about how he reckons there is going to be a big "race" war here in the u.k. in the next 10yrs. I hope he's wrong like but you can see where the edl/uaf bnp things are going ect ect. Personally I have nothing against anyone who wants to come to our country, settle down, work hard and contribute to our economy. We need immigration, imho this is what makes Britain great!. I like my ten pints and my kebab or curry, curry is Britains most popular dish now you know, however you can't beat a good roast, but even that's not English Lmao. What we don't need is illegal immigration, its just a drain on every British taxpayer and we need to tighten up on this. What's needed is a common sense approach to immigration, about what's right and what's wrong. Do I class myself as an Englishman? You bet your ass I do, even though I've Welsh and Irish in me lol, hence the vid I posted about 95% of us being mongrels lol
Bollocks. Several times on the news I've seen things go in favour or muslims, indians, pakistanis (or whatever nationality or religion you wish except our own)For example My link shows how easy he was let off for a total disregard for the soldiers fighting for us and those that have died for us. Its not racism, its proving the fact that we're too soft on everyone else except our own purely because we're too worried about what other countries will think of us if we don't treat them like royalty. Its the same for letting every immigrant into the country, dishing out visas and passports left, right and centre. Its not asserting opinion as fact, its backing up opinion (i.e. using the census etc). If you don't agree then fair enough but you can't stop people from having their own opinions just because you don't like it. I started this thread with a simple observation and opinion, some people agreed with it, but its not a set-in-stone, concrete fact that i'm trying to force down peoples throats. If people aren't thinking the same then ok, thats their opinion and everyones entitled to one.
Things go in favuor of a variety of people all the time. Not this Poppy burning hysteria again. We live in a country where we are fortunate enough to be able to choose what we do and do not respect, or indeed disrespect, so long as - in our choices - we do not cause harm to others. No harm was caused, other than countless irrational people allowing themselves to be baited, taking offence and becoming terribly upset. That's their mistake, not his wrong doing. Indeed, they're like arseholes. Everybody's got one. Nevertheless... There are two types of opinions: Those that can be quantified and verified, and those that can't. Into the latter category falls things like, "oranges are better than apples". You can't argue with those types of opinion as they're purely subjective. Opinions expressed that relate to objective, quantifiable realities, however, can be debated. Indeed, should be debated when they're contentious, and especially so when they're poorly substantiated. Making vague (uncited) claims about historic census figures barely relates to the 'opinion' expressed, and does nothing to 'back it up'. By all means, do not hesitate in expressing your personal feelings, but if you don't want strongly expressed social sentiments to be interrogated (and I'm referring more to Joanne's post), then I would recommend that you don't post them on a discussion forum in such a forthright manner.
That's why I chose 'suggestion', not 'fact', believe it or not I do think about what I say before I say it. Obviously irony is beyond you. Please don't play semantics with me because I spend long enough analysing them. No, 'not to be racist' was not an occupatio (Again - a rhetoric feature you don't understand, perhaps I could tutor you? ) in this instance, I hate to disappoint. It has substance without a racist remark following it, as stated earlier, I have provided my opinion and others can have their opinion on my opinion, which may be that they consider me racist. This opinion isn't about Indian resources, so digressing doesn't really make much difference. I'm not stating they are unusual to reside here, I am pointing out the ethnic breakdown of our population. If you're going to tell me to quote properly (Please don't patronise, I have enough essays to write without starting on a public forum), don't use Wikipedia. Religion and ethnicity do correlate but are not one, I agree, but since they correlate there is a point to what I said?! Your sources and figures are in the Census, go and look yourself because I really can't be arsed for sake of pleasing you. Sharia law springs to mind, working behind closed doors under its own rules with no real right of representation or appeal. And whatever you think it is, it's my opinion, if I've got much of a reason to give a sh*t what you think then I may back it up. But otherwise since I've decided I don't like you anyway, I'll be getting on with my life and leaving you to Google. P.S here's some wank material - http://libweb.anglia.ac.uk/referencing/harvard.htm
HERE'S SOMETHING TO REALLY GET PATRIOTIC ABOUT!!!! March 2011 Triumph sold 1,422 bikes. This makes them not only the best-selling new brand in the UK over 500cc but 2nd overall (ahead of Yamaha). Since 2009 they have sold in excess of 46,000 bikes worldwide per year - more than the old company's best year (1968) Despite dominating the home market these days, most of the bikes go for export. Not bad for a company in receivership in 1983 Looks like it's Triumph who are TAKING OVER :clap:
