Right having a proper nightmare at the min with my track bike Over the last week I have changed the clutch and also fitted a gear indicator, now I HATE electronics never been my thing but gear indicator looked easy to fit and I used Scotch locks so not to snip the loop. All fitted as of yesterday plug the battery in and attempt to start and all I get is a clicking noise under the seat :-( First thought was battery was flat so left it on the opts ate over night all looked fine go back to the bike today and try again, same thing tried for a split second to start then just clicked arrrrhhhh Battery is only 12 months old and only been used 4 times ( as it a track bike) and stored in the house and optima the used every few weeks. Plugged it into the optima the now and is showing 13.2 volts 0.88 amps so not flat. Anyone close to Walton / orrell park who is handy with the scanners care to take a look for me, I will pay them, it just I can't easily get it to a garage as its a track bike and I have a track day next Sunday at Anglesey and I am away with work most of next week :bang: Off to get a drink to calm the nerves Ps bike is a 2002 r1 5pw model
dont think the clutch would cause a clicking under the seat ...if all was well before you fitted the Gear indicator, the prob will poss lie there, is it a plug and play ? Gipro one ? have you connected it correctly? id disconnect it complete then try fire her up .
Thanks for the replying Yes clutch plates where well soaked before, as mentioned think its a electrical issue It is a datatool so not plug and play but have totally removed it and its the same :-( And yes was fine before I did the clutch and gear indicator
check the wires where the scotch locks have been, have seen them cut right through a wire, they are a botch, don't use them!! if all is ok then look at what's clicking under the seat, probably the starter relay.
Hi bloke I checked the wires and all look good and I am pretty sure it's the starter relay making the noise
make sure the battery has got a full charge and get it drop tested if you can, it's ok then check the starter relay. give it a couple of taps and see if that makes any difference. if not try bridging the two wires on it. the yam starter relays are decent so don't be surprised if it's just the battery either low or on it's way out.
definately the starter relay whats clicking have you tried,moving the wires that bolt onto the relay? i've had that problem in the past,moved the wire back and forth and hey presto the bike started..
If the starter relay is clicking there's a good chance it's working. Put a meter on it and check you have battery voltage going in and coming out on the thick wires. Bad engine earth will cause the starter to be inoperative.
Thanks guys fingers crossed I can sort it will try these suggestions later If not anyone know anyone local good with electronics who could take a look for me
As you've done 2 things, ie clutch and gear indicator, as well as checking relay and electrics the first thing i'd check is that your engine is able to turn over easily, try pushing it in gear and make sure there's not something amiss and it's locked up somehow when you've done the clutch and that there is nothing preventing the starter motor turning.
If you hadn't done anything else I would put money on it that it was a weak battery that had caused the solenoid to fail, and you'd need to replace them both, but as above you need to check the work you've done to make sure there isn't something there that's causing the problem, which has then caused the solenoid to go Sorry to disagree with you 675.TT, but my understanding is that a clicking solenoid is a symptom of it being goosed, not an indication it's working... Happy to be corrected but I've had a solenoid go on my Aprilia and a friend had one go on his vfr, and both clicked... Wilo - this whole page won't be of use as it's my bike specific, but good general explanation at the start of what the solenoid does and why they break... http://www.apriliafutura.co.uk/v2/workshop/electrics/95-starter-solenoid.html Hope it helps Live forever or die trying
Just realised, advice above is on relay, I'd call the thing where the noise is coming from the solenoid... I thought relay and solenoid was different but the website I've used calls it both too... Hmmm... Only just realised, but my terminology may be wrong Live forever or die trying
A relay and solenoid are different, a relay is an electrical switch to transfer higher ampage, a solenoid is a mechanical activation to move a part. My bet would be the battery on the bike, it can easily show 13+ volts but be goosed. Charge it and fit to bike and check the voltage drop when you hit the starter. I very much doubt that there is a problem with the starter relay as it clicks and you said the starter turns then starts clicking.
As this is my job I have to disagree lol Without the use of a meter if it can be heard clicking then your 50% there. The clicking means the starter switch is operating the switching side of the relay. If you don't have an input voltage you'll never have an output voltage. If you've got 12 v in and 8 v out the contacts are burnt / hi resistance etc. this fault can be traced in less than 1 minute using a volt meter costing £5. If the op doesn't have one I would recommend one. Quick way to eliminate the solenoid/relay is to short the 2 fat cables using a pair of long nose pliers etc. Hth
Well tried everything above and still no luck anyone recommend a good bike mechanic who can take a look at it for me preferably tomorrow and would need it back Friday latest
Stab in the dark, I have heard that the earlier R1's have been known to have a weak connection around the headstock this could be causing a drain through the ignition. Worth a check but sounds like it needs looking at with a multimeter.
