Mr Stresshead... It's refreshing for someone to come on here, ask for advice then follow it, so good on you for that What i write below I've said before so apologies to those who have heard it already but the guy wants opinions so here's mine... The conversation of what bike to get comes up often, and there is a lot of personal preference that comes into much of it - however we can pretty much all agree that getting a litre bike now is probably not the best idea for you My opinion is that a decent twin cylinder bike is better for the road, and something like a cb500, sv650 or er5 would be a better first bike than a modern inline four cylinder 600... The reason I see them as a better option in general (and certainly as a first bike) is that the very nature of the engine makes it enjoyable at pretty much all speeds... You can get much pleasure from lining a corner up, getting your braking and position spot on, then winding the throttle to get perfect drive out of the corner using your low to mid range grunt A modern inline four are absolutely fantastic machines, but the pleasure of the engine is closer to the red line - they'll run all day in low revs but it'll make it feel like you're not using the bike - I've found this this can egg you on which isn't a good thing on the road. Don't get me wrong it's a top feeling spanking a bike in the right circumstances, and don't misunderstand that just because the twin may not egg you on the same that it won't pick it's feet up - hell yes it will, and it'll catch you out just as quickly if you don't respect it, but you'll enjoy riding it even when you're not screwing the arse out of it... They're all good - but do you want something to go fast on, or do you want something you enjoy riding at all speeds that can still go more than fast enough when you need it to? The above is all my opinion... Not saying I'm right as we all like different stuff, but I've had singles (xt600, szr660), twins (bros 650, rst1000) and fours (cbr600, zx6r, blade) and ridden many other examples of each - though if anyone fancies lending me a triple drop me a pm, lol... I personally don't intend on having another inline four on the road, and certainly not a sports bike inline four For a trackday use things are different - that's why I had the cbr and zx6 - the idea of a track is to go as fast as possible whereas I ride on the road for enjoyment Live Forever or Die Trying
Stresshead, Bad luck on the theory test. I;m sure you'll crack it next time. For what it's worth I've been riding a 675 for the last four years. I've tried loads of litre bikes and more (inc. new Superduke 1290, z1000 and many more) and I still can't find a bike I want to trade in my street triple for. At the end of the day I ride on the public highway so 105 bhp is plenty unless I want to loose my licence or ride around using less than half of what a litre bike has on tap.. I'll be test riding the S1000R soon to see what that's like but got a feeling I'm just having myself on.
Right, let's try and get this back on topic... Mr Stresshead - have you ever ridden anything above 125? Even off road or anything? Live Forever or Die Trying
I'm busy tomorrow, but I've got nothing to prove to you, nor have you to me... I've pm'd you Chill out and let's get this thread back about Mr Stresshead Live Forever or Die Trying
I agree with the above regarding engine size. Im on a 660cc single cylinder...47ish bhp but a shit tonne of low down grunt and plenty fast enough for the road imo... in fact 3 months into ownership its still capable of scaring the shit out of me every now and again haha. Ive found it to be an absolutely perfect first big bike and id recommend an mt03 to anybody.
just my two peneth,but making the jump from a 125 to a 1000 is not as big a risk as some might think if the rider is sensible and can control his wrist,its all down to respecting the extra power.
Bollocks as per usual. I find it far easier to ride a litre bike. The R1 had almost twice the power of the cbr, but was far more relaxing to ride. Easier to overtake, handled better. When youve actually owned a modern litre bike ill take your opinions on board.
I totally agree except, 105 bhp is more than plenty. 46bhp is plenty solo. Ask anyone that's ridden with me.
This was my first bike after my 125. A zx6r Dead comfy. Handled brilliantly, went well, looked amazing. I also own a cbr like smudge and they are also a good step up bike. Put them side by side and the cbr looks dated though. plus things like easily accesible under seat storage are nice touches. oh and as for build quality, the bike was 11 years old when the pic was taken. Only thing new about it were the fresh tyres.
litre bikes are fantastic in the right hands .....for the average rider on the road any litre bike is way to powerful and also better than the person on it .......a test pass to a litre supersport???? dont even think about it
sorry to read you failed, don't get pissed off over it, tests are there for a reason, if you fail dont see it as all bad - what you learn now may just save you long term so look at it as a kind of blessing. As for your next bike, whats the budget not just to buy, but insure and running and maintenance costs ? all important often you see young chaps spunk all their cash on the latest GSXXRRRRRRR11111ZZZZXXX or what ever leaving no money left to insure, tyre, fuel or maintain said rocket. dont forget that more power typically means more running costs / tyre wear / insurance and can drink more fuel (with the exception of my small 2 strokes) What style of bike do you want ? semi naked (cheaper to fix when you drop - and you will drop) or fully faired sports bike ? loads to choose from to suit all budgets. take a moment to think what grooves you and you like about bikes and the more info you put in, the better tailored advice people can offer. FWIW i have like many done all the bikes for many many years, owned and ridden so many i have forgotten some, some were memorable, some less so. i have found my comfort zone and where i am enjoying bikes and that is back with 250 2 strokes and 400 import V4's. Thats not to say bigger bikes are not for me - far from it, i just accept my limited talents as a road rider see 100bhp in a light weight chassis plenty for the road and enough for me to enjoy. For me small and light is the appeal (even although i am no whippet and look ridiculous riding a 250 2 stroke or even a 125) So enjoy your time on the 125, you may find it funny, and most wont admit, but i bet many peoples best biking memories were on small low speed capacity bikes where bikes is reasonably safe and fun.
why on earth would he want to do that? untill you've spent some time on a triple you won't know the appeal, far more fun than a similar powered inline 4
I passed mine on 3rd go. twice I failed by 1 question but I passed my car first time. It is annoying especially when it's in southport and it's a lovely day....
yes obviously but the triple will keep on revving when the v twin has ran out if puff , no one is better it's what the rider prefers
Tbh I got an SV650 as my first bike, then got another nicer one. Then i bought a cbr600 to run along side. The torque of a v twin means that you can ride it calmly. You can be going fast, but to others you aren't appearing like a hooligan. My cbr needs revving to go as fast as the SV, it then begins to scream, in turn it makes me ride like a hooligan, and makes everyone look at me as if I'm a hooligan. Thats just before the comparisons of engine breaking torque out of corners etc
When the V-twin is running out of puff, and the triple is just coming on song, I am start to think of my threatened licence and general survival. No, twins and singles are best for the road. Feel free to disagree and exercise your civil right to be wrong.
