Chain and sprockets

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by HondaPete, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. HondaPete

    HondaPete New Member

    The time has come to replace the chain on the cbf, first time on anything other than a 125 so i'm just putting up a checklist to see if i've thought of everything, holler if i've missed anything.
    Dremel to grind the rivits down.
    Remove with the chain breaker.
    Loosen rear wheel and remove whilst ensuring the rear brake isnt touched. (May remove the rear brake lever to make sure)
    Remove the rear sprocket, replace and tighten to correct torque.
    Remove and replace front sprocket.
    Replace rear wheel.
    Place chain over both sprockets.
    Fit the master link using the riviting tool.
    Tighten chain and ensure wheels are in line.
    Le Fin.

    Anything out of place? Or pro tips i could use?
     
  2. Purity14

    Purity14 New Member

    Protips:
    You might struggle to undo the rear sprocket bolts once the wheel is off due to leverage, some of them are very tight, depends if you a pussy.
    If you are a pussy, refit the wheel to the bike and have someone sit on it with the brake applied, front wheel against a wall perhaps.
    Use long breaker bar to just loosen the sprocket nuts then remove the wheel, and then taking off the sprocket is easyer.
    Looking at this picture you will see that you can access the sprocket nuts whilst the wheel is attached, depends on the design.
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    Oh and don't bother removing the brake lever, just don't press it, if you do - use a G clamp to put the piston back in.
     
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  3. HondaPete

    HondaPete New Member

    The bike in that photo uses the same swing arm, wheel and sprocket as my cbf so it'd work. I'll have a stab with the wheel off but if it doesn't work and it turns out i'm a weakling i'll use the pussy method! :thumbsup:
     
  4. Purity14

    Purity14 New Member

    There is a MEGA PUSSY method too, but lets see how you get on :)
     
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  5. lee

    lee Moderator Staff Member

    Even more important, undo the front sprocket nut before removing chain.
     
  6. HondaPete

    HondaPete New Member

    Actual tip, or a troll? Genuine question as i've never done that on the 5 other chains i've replaced.
     
  7. lee

    lee Moderator Staff Member

    Other tips.
    Remember the grease and o rings in the rivet link.
    Sprockets are often offset, especially the rear. Make sure you fit it the correct way round.
    If your struggling with the front sprocket, and you are on your own, put a bolt through the chain so the head rests against the rear sprocket. this should lock sufficiently to remove the nut.
     
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  8. lee

    lee Moderator Staff Member

    Best tip on here.
    If you cut the chain off you will have no chance with the front nut. You need to lock it in place by using the rear wheel and chain to stop it turning. It will be pretty tight.
     
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  9. Purity14

    Purity14 New Member

    This is actually a major top tip.

    Some people will get a mate to sit on the bike with the rear brake applied.

    I don't have any friends, so I just put a spanner through the rear wheel so it sits on the swingarm and then apply force to the front sprocket bolt.
    But I am a bad bad man.

    I use a quality socket not a shit one, I have a 6 sided impact socket for this purpose, and always ALWAYS make sure its firmly on before turning it.
     
  10. lee

    lee Moderator Staff Member

    Oh.
    And most importantly.
    Take pics as you go along.

    So we can have a giggle if you suffer an epic fail :p
     
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  11. Cabernet

    Cabernet Smug to be riding the Moto Guzzi VIP Member

    Definitely a top tip that.
    You may need a second person standing on the back brake to hold the sprocket still whilst you crack the sprocket nut.
    I crack the rear sprocket nuts while the wheel is still in the bike too.
     
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  12. Cabernet

    Cabernet Smug to be riding the Moto Guzzi VIP Member

    Another top tip
     
  13. jimmytanko

    jimmytanko New Member

    i'll be doing this on the VFR800 next week so all good tips
    mines a single sided swingarm so probably a little different technique wise i guess
     
  14. johnnyrotten13

    johnnyrotten13 New Member

    ive just done this very thing today my top tip is DONT buy a cheapo riveter off ebay, fuckin chain link is stronger than the riveting pin and worn the tip on mine i hope mine is safe enough to ride also has any one geet a decent riveter to nip mine up to be on the safe side?
     
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  15. Cabernet

    Cabernet Smug to be riding the Moto Guzzi VIP Member

    I love my shaft:love:.
     
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  16. HondaPete

    HondaPete New Member

    I've got an el cheapo one at the minute, but i'm ordering a new one this week (£27 as opposed to my current £6 one). Be nice to go to a shop and pick one up but working hours won't allow that.
     
  17. gsxstu

    gsxstu New Member

    so do I and I wash it as fast as I want. lol ;):whistle:
     
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  18. lee

    lee Moderator Staff Member

    Good quality ones tend to be about £70 - £100+
    Just make sure the rivet is sufficient.
     
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  19. Perr38

    Perr38 New Member

    I have a bloody expensive one if any 1 wants a borrow !
     
  20. HondaPete

    HondaPete New Member

    Er...me sir! Me at the back! I may take you up on this if the one that arrives is under par :thumbsup:
     

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