What is the best method of removing a stubborn bolt?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Andybon, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. Andybon

    Andybon New Member

    Got a couple of fairing bolts that have rounded off heads and that are seized in place, Was wandering what the best way of removing them is?

    Think 3 of them are allen key heads amd 2 are pozi drive heads. (It's my own daft fault, I never copper slipped them up last time I serviced it!) Have ordered a full set of stainless bolts to replace them, so not too bothered about damaging the bolts, Just dont want to damage the fairings!
     
  2. bikenutter

    bikenutter VIP Member VIP Member

    BIG HAMMER !!!!!
     
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  3. Scottie

    Scottie Midnight Hooner ©

    The pozi drives, if you tighten them in ever so slightly then undo em they usually come out

    The allen key ones, can you tap a slighlty bigger one in? Or tap a torx drive in
     
  4. Andybon

    Andybon New Member

    I'll give them a try, Sprayed a load of plus gas onto them to try and un seize them, Will give it another go on saturday!
     
  5. Scottie

    Scottie Midnight Hooner ©

    Strike while the irons hot
     
  6. Vvtr

    Vvtr ( . )Y( . ) Turtle Z VIP Member

    go easy if theyre fairing fasteners.... try to get them off from behind if you can to avoid damaging the paintwork....

    you coud get a dremel of generic rotary hobby tool (!) and cut a slot in the top.

    i wouldnt use a hammer or hear on fairing bolts tbh, i'd rather cut them off, remoe the fairing then drill & tap them if they wont come out.
    chances are youll be able to get a pair of moleys on the bit sticking out, and a bit more plusgas
     
  7. Andybon

    Andybon New Member

    I can only get to the back of one of the bolts, one is straight onto the frame with the engine directly behind it!

    Going to leave it soaking overnight then spray some more on tomorrow night and have a good go at it on saturday!

    I take it heating the bolt up is a big no no, Have a small gas soldering iron i could use directly on the bolt.
     
  8. XJR1300

    XJR1300 New Member

    I would avoid anything that involves a hammer,chances are the force involved will crack the fairing plastic,as mentioned on the allan heads gentle tap a over sized torx bit into the head this will cut into the metal then apply moderate leverage but keep the torx head frimly pushed into the bolt
    the others make sure you have the correct screwdriver philips or pozi using the wrong head type will slip out of the bolt head again making sure the head is loxated firmly into the screw head
     
  9. Matty-S-182

    Matty-S-182 What Red Light?

    Cut a slot in it and us a flat screwdriver
     
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  10. Alex

    Alex Nankers VIP Member

    :icecream: Give it to someone else to do. :)
     
  11. Andybon

    Andybon New Member

    Been tempted to, But funds are a bit tight at the minute!
     
  12. Ninja-Sean

    Ninja-Sean New Member

    A nice steady hand and a drill will solve your issues pal, mine did it a few days back and thats what I did. I masked up the local area just in case I slipped.

    Within a couple of minutes, I had the first one off.
     
  13. Vvtr

    Vvtr ( . )Y( . ) Turtle Z VIP Member

    that would've been so much more amusing if you'd said you had it off in under a minute! :boff:

    was looking for that vid of homer trying to get the wheel clamp off lol - that would do it - just pull up next to a diggerman and ask to borrow his jack hammer :lol:
     
  14. KTM_Dude

    KTM_Dude TT 2015 Booked! Oh yeah! VIP Member

    You have already used my first idea, Plud Gas - top stuff. If the heads are rounded off, and you have got a cheap socket set, you could epoxy a socket onto the rounded bolt. Then drink beer and go to bed. The next day carefully add a t bar and it should come off. If it doesn't, try better/more beer next time :)
     
  15. Andybon

    Andybon New Member

    I have pleanty of old sockets lying around, will give that a go, Think ill pick up an impact driver in the morning and give that a go too!
     
  16. Vvtr

    Vvtr ( . )Y( . ) Turtle Z VIP Member

    got a snapped stud out of a machine with an arc welder the other day..... it had broke off right inside the thread - i thought it had been bottomed out and broke on the way in as the rest of the thread was clean..
    so i got a 4milly rod, turned the amps up and pushed the rof on the end of the stud then earthed it.
    it welded the rod to the stud and got it good and hot so it came out easy :)

    another good way is drill a pilot hole then swap for a masonry bit and switch to hammer drill. it will shock it loose.
     
  17. Andybon

    Andybon New Member

    Think my hammer drill would knock the bike into the next street :lol:
     
  18. Scottie

    Scottie Midnight Hooner ©

    Where are you located andy? Im a mechanic and rarely get defeated,

    Ive got specialist tools for removing rounded screws n stuff
     
  19. Andybon

    Andybon New Member

    I'm in st Helens, usually if I have a bolt that is seized or rounded I just smash it off, or even use mole grips. Only thing with this I don't want to damage the fairings as they are dear to replace and hard to fing in good nick and right colours!
     

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