Rear light question.

Discussion in 'Projects & Modifications' started by finchey63, Sep 17, 2014.

  1. finchey63

    finchey63 Active Member

    My question is are the aftermarket led rear lights with intergrated turn signals road legal in the uk and do you still need seprate signals aswell as the intergrated ones for the mot.:thumbsdown:
     
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  2. Dave

    Dave Moderator Staff Member

    are you insured with bennets ??? dont even think about it
     
  3. Jazzi

    Jazzi Listers Missus VIP Member

    Completely legal :) We've got them on the Zed

    [​IMG]

     
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  4. Cabernet

    Cabernet Smug to be riding the Moto Guzzi VIP Member

    May be completely legal, but to us partially colour blind folk they are completely useless.

    Incidently, I question if they are legal. I believe that indicates have to be a defined distance apart. Need to review construction and use specifications.
     
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  5. Jazzi

    Jazzi Listers Missus VIP Member

    • Indicators must be fitted to a motorcycle and emit only orange light
    • They must flash on and off, not just dim and brighten
    • They must flash between 60 and 120 times per minute
    • They must be visible when riding or have a functioning idiot light
    • They must be securely fitted and so must the switch
    • They must not be adversely affected by the operation of another lamp or the horn
     
  6. Cabernet

    Cabernet Smug to be riding the Moto Guzzi VIP Member

    2. Position–

    (a) Longitudinal–

    (i)A side repeater indicator which is required to be fitted in accordance with paragraph 1(a):

    Within 2600 mm of the front of the vehicle
    (ii)Any other indicator:

    No requirement
    (b) Lateral–

    (i)Maximum distance from the side of the vehicle–

    (A)Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (B):

    400 mm
    (B)A motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986, a trailer manufactured before 1st October 1985, a solo motor bicycle, a pedal cycle, a horse-drawn vehicle and a vehicle drawn or propelled by hand:

    No requirement
    (ii)Minimum separation distance between indicators on opposite sides of a vehicle–

    (A)A motor vehicle (other than a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination or an invalid carriage having a maximum speed not exceeding 8 mph) first used on or after 1st April 1986, a trailer manufactured on or after 1st October 1985, a horse-drawn vehicle, a pedstrian-controlled vehicle and a vehicle drawn or propelled by hand:

    500 mm or, if the overall width of the vehicle is less than 1400 mm, 400 mm
    (B)A solo motor bicycle having an engine exceeding 50 cc and first used on or after 1st April 1986–

    (1)Front indicators:

    300 mm
    (2)Rear indicators:

    240 mm

    (C)A solo motor bicycle having an engine not exceeding 50 cc and first used on or after 1st April 1986 and a pedal cycle–

    (1)Front indicators:

    240 mm
    (2)Rear indicators:

    180 mm
    (D)A motor bicycle combination first used on or after 1st April 1986:

    400 mm
    (E)An invalid carriage having a maximum speed not exceeding 8 mph–

    (1)Front indicators:

    240 mm
    (2)Rear indicators:

    300 mm
    (F)A motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986 and a trailer manufactured before 1st October 1985:

    No requirement
    (iii)Minimum separation distance between a front indicator and any dipped-beam headlamp or front fog lamp–

    (A)Fitted to a motor vehicle, other than a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination, first used on or after 1st April 1991:

    (a) in the case of a Category 1 indicator, 40 mm;

    (b) in the case of a Category 1a indicator, 20 mm;

    (c) in the case of a Category 1b indicator, no requirement

    (B)Fitted to a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination in either case first used on or after 1st April 1986:

    100 mm
    (C)Fitted to any other vehicle:

    No requirement
    (c) Vertical–

    (i)Maximum height above the ground–

    (A)Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (B) or (C):

    1500 mm or, if the structure of the vehicle makes this impracticable, 2300 mm.
    (B)A motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986 and a trailer manufactured before 1st October 1985:

    No requirement
    (C)A motor vehicle having a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph:

    No requirement
    (ii)Minimum height above the ground:

    350 mm
     
  7. Jazzi

    Jazzi Listers Missus VIP Member

    #YOLO
     
  8. finchey63

    finchey63 Active Member

    Was it easy to fit, just like for like swop?
     
  9. Jazzi

    Jazzi Listers Missus VIP Member

    Ours didn't come with proper connectors, just the pins. But they fitted straight into the original loom. A bit of fiddling around to figure out which one is left and right etc. Took about 20 min tops
     
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  10. Jazzi

    Jazzi Listers Missus VIP Member

    You can get some proper cheap ones from Hong Kong and China, I decided to go with a £80 one from Germany though
     
  11. Cabernet

    Cabernet Smug to be riding the Moto Guzzi VIP Member

    So look after life with functional kit, rather than gimmicks
     
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  12. Woody

    Woody Super Naked. VIP Member

    Gotta admit whilst they look mega they are massively unsafe! also most units restrict light so that the light can only been seen when directly behind the bike.

    Regarding the spacing: if the light (orange) effects the brake light in anyway (regardless of spacing) then its a straight MOT failure.

    Ive had 2 since Ive started biking and either removed them or added separate indicators aswell.
     
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  13. ListerTheStupid

    ListerTheStupid Is it summer yet? VIP Member

    I don't even use the indicators.... just there for mot..
     
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  14. stewslash

    stewslash New Member

    id of thought the brake light would be a MOT fail on the light in the vid above with it not emitting a constant light when indicating ?
     
  15. Jazzi

    Jazzi Listers Missus VIP Member

    Ok then, functional kit.
    Am I not right in saying that it IS a functional kit?
    It has a tail light and two indicators. The only difference from your bog standard set up is that its in one unit not three!

    If you wanted to nit-pick everytime someone put something 'illegal' on their bike you'd be here for hours, as simple as that. 50% of people on here probably haven't got BS marked exhausts, illegal. Smaller plates, illegal. Etc etc.

    You shouldn't stop buying stuff on the off-chance that someone behind you doesn't agree with it, or doesn't see it. You should be doing half the obs yourself, lifesavers before you turn, mirror checks. In the 3 years I've been pillion on a bike not once have we had a car pull out on us or almost take us out. Read the road and it puts you in a less of a situation to be on the floor.
     
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  16. smudger

    smudger I Love SV650's

    I have a clear integrated on the cbr all that was required was to replace and just connect one of the bulb holders making one redundant.
    Passed MOT no problem had plenty of road traffic police behind me not a single look I even have one of them flashing brake lights.
     
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  17. BigDan

    BigDan New Member

    Well, actually you should stop buying stuff on the offchance that someone doesn't see it, considering that we're talking about BRAKE LIGHTS. And smaller plates and non e-marked exhausts aren't safety features, surely you'll agree brake lights and indicators are a bit more vital :)

    Also, I wouldn't have bothered writing this response if your message above wasn't so fucking childish - "YOLO". Mate, its not 2012 anymore - and it wasn't cool then.
     
  18. Jazzi

    Jazzi Listers Missus VIP Member

    It's called a JOKE Dan. Jeez oh.
     
  19. finchey63

    finchey63 Active Member

    It was a £70 german one i was thinking about buying.:thumbsup:
     
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  20. Woody

    Woody Super Naked. VIP Member

    [​IMG]
     
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