What will be lost ? like i said in the original post this board will be still accessible albeit read only. we either deal with the oncoming problem now with eyes wide open or wait for the big bang and deal with a bigger issue then. as for migration - mate not a chance, in short the migration has gone from one to another and i dont think that was 100% clean. as such i am guessing there is quite a lot of legacy guff in the DB and tables and looking at the issues others have had porting out to either phpbb or vbulletin seems to have been a pretty torrid affair with limited success and lots of problems after. trying to just download the database is a none starter - its over 3gb. the speed it moves over my 100mb pipe aint exactly quick before it times out or once it does land wont open on a PC due to corruption and on a MAC it opens - just. I have done a few migrations between phpbb, vbulletin and evne snitz and a couple of others over the years and regardless of the converter used or care in cleaning up there is always a gotcha somewhere down the line be it in performance or mysql errors I really aint a sql developer and my skills are limited in regard to coding, db dev and php stuff. Honestly with the best of intention i am not making a rod for my own back with this or getting dragged into something i spend far too much of my time maintaining when a clean vanilla board using a tried and tested and popular format will be a piece of piss to support and maintain so perhaps i can enjoy some summer on my bike and not nursing some sick board.